1 00:00:03,300 --> 00:00:09,070 [Music] 2 00:00:13,690 --> 00:00:11,410 it's always exciting to get the talk in 3 00:00:15,220 --> 00:00:13,700 front of folks like yourselves and I'm 4 00:00:17,080 --> 00:00:15,230 gonna talk about physics synchronicity 5 00:00:18,670 --> 00:00:17,090 and experimenter expectation my 6 00:00:22,570 --> 00:00:18,680 particular interest is the physics of 7 00:00:24,490 --> 00:00:22,580 synchronicity but I wanted to see if 8 00:00:25,900 --> 00:00:24,500 that could relate to this idea the 9 00:00:29,470 --> 00:00:25,910 experimenter effect or experiment or 10 00:00:30,639 --> 00:00:29,480 expectation so the quote here is the 11 00:00:31,929 --> 00:00:30,649 experimenter effect is the most 12 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:31,939 important challenge facing modern 13 00:00:36,130 --> 00:00:34,010 parapsychology it may be that we will 14 00:00:37,389 --> 00:00:36,140 not be able to make too much progress in 15 00:00:38,710 --> 00:00:37,399 other areas of the field until the 16 00:00:41,709 --> 00:00:38,720 puzzle of the experimenter effect is 17 00:00:43,990 --> 00:00:41,719 solved that's an important it's an 18 00:00:45,220 --> 00:00:44,000 important thing to talk about and we 19 00:00:46,979 --> 00:00:45,230 will explain I'll explain what that is 20 00:00:49,569 --> 00:00:46,989 as we go if you're not familiar with it 21 00:00:50,829 --> 00:00:49,579 first I want to define the way I use 22 00:00:52,209 --> 00:00:50,839 synchronicity because there are 23 00:00:53,650 --> 00:00:52,219 different definitions but mine is 24 00:00:55,450 --> 00:00:53,660 basically a meaningful coincidence of 25 00:00:59,650 --> 00:00:55,460 physical events that one would otherwise 26 00:01:01,299 --> 00:00:59,660 expect to be random so what I'm going to 27 00:01:04,270 --> 00:01:01,309 say is that a single quantum event is 28 00:01:06,430 --> 00:01:04,280 random but a string of quantum events or 29 00:01:07,870 --> 00:01:06,440 a time line may develop a greater than 30 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:07,880 likelihood greater than chance 31 00:01:11,980 --> 00:01:10,130 likelihood for a given type of outcome 32 00:01:14,710 --> 00:01:11,990 that is consistent with the belief state 33 00:01:16,749 --> 00:01:14,720 of the experimenter so we're going to 34 00:01:18,850 --> 00:01:16,759 accept obviously that quantum events 35 00:01:20,740 --> 00:01:18,860 collapse into into the eigenstates 36 00:01:22,719 --> 00:01:20,750 randomly but we're going to say that 37 00:01:25,450 --> 00:01:22,729 over time there may be a process that we 38 00:01:27,130 --> 00:01:25,460 can talk about which will lead us to a 39 00:01:29,260 --> 00:01:27,140 particular state that's consistent with 40 00:01:32,469 --> 00:01:29,270 the belief state of the person taking 41 00:01:34,620 --> 00:01:32,479 the action so I'm going to talk about 42 00:01:36,940 --> 00:01:34,630 two separate effects that I've termed 43 00:01:38,649 --> 00:01:36,950 one is a singular value effect and the 44 00:01:40,950 --> 00:01:38,659 other is a history selection effect just 45 00:01:43,209 --> 00:01:40,960 to differentiate them in the discussion 46 00:01:44,980 --> 00:01:43,219 and I'm gonna talk about singular values 47 00:01:47,620 --> 00:01:44,990 explain what they are and as a measure 48 00:01:48,700 --> 00:01:47,630 of belief that's gonna be a core part of 49 00:01:50,139 --> 00:01:48,710 the heart and soul of what I'm talking 50 00:01:51,730 --> 00:01:50,149 about I'm gonna give an example and 51 00:01:55,270 --> 00:01:51,740 we're talking about what our society's 52 00:01:57,279 --> 00:01:55,280 beliefs so some background tools for 53 00:01:59,469 --> 00:01:57,289 those of you who are not physicists a 54 00:02:01,359 --> 00:01:59,479 quantum measurement is generally 55 00:02:03,969 --> 00:02:01,369 described by a positive operator value 56 00:02:05,289 --> 00:02:03,979 the measure a POV M and basically this 57 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:05,299 is saying that any measurement is 58 00:02:09,100 --> 00:02:07,130 described by a positive operator which 59 00:02:11,980 --> 00:02:09,110 is a matrix that has some special 60 00:02:14,410 --> 00:02:11,990 properties I don't need to go into what 61 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:14,420 they are for you today but there's also 62 00:02:19,330 --> 00:02:16,610 another fact of linear algebra that a 63 00:02:22,030 --> 00:02:19,340 matrix any matrix can be decomposed into 64 00:02:25,539 --> 00:02:22,040 a combination of 65 00:02:27,039 --> 00:02:25,549 three different other matrices you Sigma 66 00:02:30,729 --> 00:02:27,049 and V transpose that's the T is 67 00:02:31,869 --> 00:02:30,739 transpose and this is if you remember in 68 00:02:33,670 --> 00:02:31,879 fourth and fifth grade when you factor 69 00:02:35,110 --> 00:02:33,680 in numbers you take the number 12 you 70 00:02:37,509 --> 00:02:35,120 can factor it into two times three times 71 00:02:39,940 --> 00:02:37,519 two this is the same thing you're taking 72 00:02:41,410 --> 00:02:39,950 any matrix on the left a this is a four 73 00:02:42,910 --> 00:02:41,420 by four a random one that I created 74 00:02:44,289 --> 00:02:42,920 factoring it into three different 75 00:02:45,970 --> 00:02:44,299 matrices that when you multiply them 76 00:02:48,129 --> 00:02:45,980 together you get the one on the left but 77 00:02:50,649 --> 00:02:48,139 the thing is that these three matrices 78 00:02:53,170 --> 00:02:50,659 have special properties and any matrix 79 00:02:54,580 --> 00:02:53,180 can be described in this way so U and V 80 00:02:56,470 --> 00:02:54,590 has special properties and Sigma 81 00:02:58,059 --> 00:02:56,480 especially I'm going to talk about today 82 00:03:00,190 --> 00:02:58,069 it's a diagonal matrix which means it 83 00:03:03,699 --> 00:03:00,200 has zeros on all the elements except for 84 00:03:06,009 --> 00:03:03,709 the diagonal which have these elements 85 00:03:07,390 --> 00:03:06,019 Sigma and those are going to be what I'm 86 00:03:11,979 --> 00:03:07,400 going to relate to the experimenters 87 00:03:13,539 --> 00:03:11,989 belief that's the central piece so the 88 00:03:15,009 --> 00:03:13,549 postulate how do we interpret the SVD 89 00:03:17,020 --> 00:03:15,019 postulate I'm gonna make is the singular 90 00:03:18,399 --> 00:03:17,030 value is Sigma bias the system toward an 91 00:03:21,369 --> 00:03:18,409 outcome that is consistent with the 92 00:03:24,039 --> 00:03:21,379 belief state of the experimenter these 93 00:03:25,089 --> 00:03:24,049 are essentially weights on the quantum 94 00:03:28,509 --> 00:03:25,099 states or on what I'm going to call 95 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:28,519 histories so again the singular value 96 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:30,530 decomposition we have a unitary 97 00:03:34,659 --> 00:03:31,970 transformation I'll describe that in a 98 00:03:36,460 --> 00:03:34,669 second a linear combination and then a 99 00:03:38,050 --> 00:03:36,470 unitary transformation in the linear 100 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:38,060 common linear transformation area is 101 00:03:42,189 --> 00:03:39,650 where we're going to have each of these 102 00:03:44,439 --> 00:03:42,199 values Sigma 1 Sigma 2 Sigma 3 and Sigma 103 00:03:46,509 --> 00:03:44,449 4 are going to provide a weight or 104 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:46,519 probability for each particular state 105 00:03:50,649 --> 00:03:47,930 and these are going to be somehow I'm 106 00:03:52,569 --> 00:03:50,659 not going to hypothesize on how but 107 00:03:54,809 --> 00:03:52,579 somehow related to the belief state of 108 00:03:58,599 --> 00:03:54,819 the experiment are taking the action 109 00:04:00,969 --> 00:03:58,609 unitary transformations are special also 110 00:04:03,339 --> 00:04:00,979 special matrices and they describe time 111 00:04:06,759 --> 00:04:03,349 evolution of a system that's undisturbed 112 00:04:08,429 --> 00:04:06,769 so there are a very a nice there are 113 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:08,439 type of transformation that a 114 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:11,090 mechanistic or materialistic quantum 115 00:04:13,839 --> 00:04:12,530 physicists would like because they don't 116 00:04:14,469 --> 00:04:13,849 involve any kind of collapse of a 117 00:04:16,599 --> 00:04:14,479 wavefunction 118 00:04:19,210 --> 00:04:16,609 it's just how a system evolves over time 119 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:19,220 if it's not being just disturbed by a 120 00:04:22,629 --> 00:04:20,930 measurement so you've got two of those 121 00:04:24,010 --> 00:04:22,639 on either side first you transform it 122 00:04:28,930 --> 00:04:24,020 unitarily then you provide this 123 00:04:30,909 --> 00:04:28,940 measurement which is given by these 124 00:04:32,019 --> 00:04:30,919 particular values and this is a little 125 00:04:36,129 --> 00:04:32,029 more controversial and then you've got 126 00:04:37,149 --> 00:04:36,139 another unitary transformation and all 127 00:04:39,399 --> 00:04:37,159 I'll go a little bit more into what 128 00:04:40,570 --> 00:04:39,409 those are so hopefully they're not just 129 00:04:42,879 --> 00:04:40,580 block the numbers for you before you 130 00:04:44,379 --> 00:04:42,889 leave so the example I'm going to use is 131 00:04:45,969 --> 00:04:44,389 slits and Wiseman's experiment 132 00:04:47,619 --> 00:04:45,979 experimenter e effects and the remote 133 00:04:51,129 --> 00:04:47,629 detection of staring so in this 134 00:04:55,300 --> 00:04:51,139 experiment they had an experimenter on 135 00:04:57,879 --> 00:04:55,310 the Left looking at a television feed of 136 00:04:59,649 --> 00:04:57,889 subject in a room and the subject was 137 00:05:01,450 --> 00:04:59,659 doing menial tasks reading a magazine 138 00:05:03,429 --> 00:05:01,460 but they had electrodes hooked up to 139 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:03,439 their finger and the experimenter was 140 00:05:08,379 --> 00:05:05,090 measuring their conductivity of their 141 00:05:10,990 --> 00:05:08,389 skin for excitement excitability and the 142 00:05:12,820 --> 00:05:11,000 experimenter would go from state for 30 143 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:12,830 seconds of staring at the person on the 144 00:05:16,300 --> 00:05:14,690 screen to not staring at this person on 145 00:05:18,730 --> 00:05:16,310 the screen for 30 seconds and then 146 00:05:20,350 --> 00:05:18,740 staring for another 30 seconds and not 147 00:05:21,850 --> 00:05:20,360 staring for another 30 seconds and of 148 00:05:24,790 --> 00:05:21,860 course this was controlled there was you 149 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:24,800 know they changed the order of staring 150 00:05:28,570 --> 00:05:26,690 and not staring it so it was a well 151 00:05:31,689 --> 00:05:28,580 controlled trial and Marilyn Schlitz got 152 00:05:34,540 --> 00:05:31,699 significant results and Richard Wiseman 153 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:34,550 did not everything about the experiments 154 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:37,490 were identical same room same protocol 155 00:05:42,459 --> 00:05:41,330 same timeframe and this the experiment 156 00:05:43,540 --> 00:05:42,469 was to try and find out the only thing 157 00:05:45,730 --> 00:05:43,550 that was uncontrolled that was 158 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:45,740 controlled for or that was a variable 159 00:05:51,070 --> 00:05:48,050 was the actual experiment of himself and 160 00:05:54,579 --> 00:05:51,080 it's very interesting and and should be 161 00:05:55,629 --> 00:05:54,589 repeated so I'm gonna try and talk about 162 00:05:56,649 --> 00:05:55,639 what how that could be is there an 163 00:05:58,959 --> 00:05:56,659 explanation that we can come up with 164 00:06:00,850 --> 00:05:58,969 that's physical physics I don't want it 165 00:06:01,990 --> 00:06:00,860 to be something that we just write off 166 00:06:03,490 --> 00:06:02,000 it needs to be explained 167 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:03,500 obviously as all of you would agree with 168 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:05,690 me so the main idea I'm going to present 169 00:06:10,119 --> 00:06:08,210 is main idea one history selection 170 00:06:11,559 --> 00:06:10,129 effect future outcomes are grouped 171 00:06:17,010 --> 00:06:11,569 together according to the nature of the 172 00:06:20,829 --> 00:06:17,020 question posed so in quantum mechanics 173 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:20,839 we we can start the tools we use often 174 00:06:25,059 --> 00:06:22,849 ours you start with a state a quantum 175 00:06:26,649 --> 00:06:25,069 state P on the left and if you want to 176 00:06:28,629 --> 00:06:26,659 understand what it's doing in the future 177 00:06:30,459 --> 00:06:28,639 you then look at all the different ways 178 00:06:31,959 --> 00:06:30,469 that could evolve over time and the 179 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:31,969 first time step it might evolve into two 180 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:34,849 states P plus and P minus and then that 181 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:35,930 each of those states might evolve 182 00:06:45,639 --> 00:06:39,650 further into P plus plus + P + - + P - + 183 00:06:46,930 --> 00:06:45,649 + P minus - up here so this happens at 184 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:46,940 any level that you want to do I've only 185 00:06:51,300 --> 00:06:49,130 done a simple example where it goes into 186 00:06:53,470 --> 00:06:51,310 two states at a time 187 00:06:53,890 --> 00:06:53,480 but these future states over here on the 188 00:06:57,370 --> 00:06:53,900 right 189 00:06:59,620 --> 00:06:57,380 represent states at a future time state 190 00:07:01,480 --> 00:06:59,630 and I can do this without actually 191 00:07:03,219 --> 00:07:01,490 having to wait for them I can actually 192 00:07:04,390 --> 00:07:03,229 predict and look look at a given system 193 00:07:06,490 --> 00:07:04,400 and say well this is how it's going to 194 00:07:08,740 --> 00:07:06,500 evolve over time I can write down an 195 00:07:10,629 --> 00:07:08,750 actual form for the state of a system 196 00:07:13,210 --> 00:07:10,639 and at a future time and I have to 197 00:07:16,810 --> 00:07:13,220 include all of these possible states now 198 00:07:18,730 --> 00:07:16,820 what I'm suggesting is that based on the 199 00:07:20,740 --> 00:07:18,740 question you posed you're going to 200 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:20,750 you're going to generate a series of 201 00:07:26,290 --> 00:07:24,770 possible future outcomes but it's up to 202 00:07:27,730 --> 00:07:26,300 the experiment of themself the physicist 203 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:27,740 in their notebook how they want to group 204 00:07:32,170 --> 00:07:30,410 those outcomes in their in their 205 00:07:35,770 --> 00:07:32,180 calculations and I'm going to suggest 206 00:07:37,540 --> 00:07:35,780 it's always possible to to group them 207 00:07:39,129 --> 00:07:37,550 any way you want as long as you're 208 00:07:41,350 --> 00:07:39,139 consistent there's any number of 209 00:07:43,420 --> 00:07:41,360 different ways to write the final states 210 00:07:45,700 --> 00:07:43,430 here there's not just one correct way 211 00:07:47,980 --> 00:07:45,710 there's any number of different ways to 212 00:07:49,210 --> 00:07:47,990 do it as long as they're consistent and 213 00:07:50,950 --> 00:07:49,220 the whole branch of consistent histories 214 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:50,960 quantum theory deals with how do you 215 00:07:54,550 --> 00:07:52,250 come up with understanding whether a 216 00:07:57,670 --> 00:07:54,560 system and outcome set is consistent or 217 00:07:59,800 --> 00:07:57,680 not but the idea is that if I ask a 218 00:08:02,110 --> 00:07:59,810 question is it possible to detect when 219 00:08:03,879 --> 00:08:02,120 someone is staring at you then I can 220 00:08:05,830 --> 00:08:03,889 look at all the possible future outcomes 221 00:08:08,350 --> 00:08:05,840 of a situation and group those outcomes 222 00:08:11,650 --> 00:08:08,360 according to situation according to 223 00:08:12,250 --> 00:08:11,660 outcomes that are positive results where 224 00:08:13,870 --> 00:08:12,260 it is 225 00:08:15,159 --> 00:08:13,880 the person does detect that they're 226 00:08:17,620 --> 00:08:15,169 being stared at and negative those 227 00:08:21,310 --> 00:08:17,630 results whether they can they don't 228 00:08:22,810 --> 00:08:21,320 detect being stared at and it's up to 229 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:22,820 the experiment or how they write those 230 00:08:28,659 --> 00:08:26,090 down and how they group them and that's 231 00:08:30,820 --> 00:08:28,669 our first step this is the same kind of 232 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:30,830 tree where this initial state branches 233 00:08:34,870 --> 00:08:32,930 out into P plus P minus P plus plus P 234 00:08:36,370 --> 00:08:34,880 plus minus and then these are all the 235 00:08:40,089 --> 00:08:36,380 future States there's 16 of them and 236 00:08:41,620 --> 00:08:40,099 this random example that I created so 237 00:08:43,269 --> 00:08:41,630 I'm gonna define something called 238 00:08:45,990 --> 00:08:43,279 synchronicity States these are just 239 00:08:48,340 --> 00:08:46,000 States when you get an effect where the 240 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:48,350 experimenter is looking at the person 241 00:08:52,780 --> 00:08:51,290 and the subject says they feel watched 242 00:08:54,550 --> 00:08:52,790 so there's a correlation and apparent 243 00:08:55,540 --> 00:08:54,560 correlation or when the experimenter is 244 00:08:56,680 --> 00:08:55,550 not looking at the subject and the 245 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:56,690 subject says they do not feel watched 246 00:08:59,829 --> 00:08:57,770 those are both the states that we're 247 00:09:01,000 --> 00:08:59,839 looking for those are the ones we want 248 00:09:03,350 --> 00:09:01,010 to have happen if we have a positive 249 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:03,360 effect 250 00:09:07,009 --> 00:09:05,130 the states where the experiment is 251 00:09:08,420 --> 00:09:07,019 looking and the subject is saying they 252 00:09:11,449 --> 00:09:08,430 do not feel watch obviously the ones 253 00:09:12,980 --> 00:09:11,459 that would give us an older result so 254 00:09:16,130 --> 00:09:12,990 let's just highlight on our on our graph 255 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:16,140 here these in my particular example I I 256 00:09:21,319 --> 00:09:19,370 chose those two to be the states that 257 00:09:22,990 --> 00:09:21,329 correspond to those synchronicity events 258 00:09:25,639 --> 00:09:23,000 so those are the positive results and 259 00:09:28,340 --> 00:09:25,649 I've just grouped all the ones that 260 00:09:31,190 --> 00:09:28,350 don't involve any kind of synchronicity 261 00:09:33,470 --> 00:09:31,200 or any kind of positive result into a 262 00:09:35,090 --> 00:09:33,480 different branch over here and then into 263 00:09:36,710 --> 00:09:35,100 this branch over here we also have none 264 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:36,720 of those synchronicities and so really 265 00:09:40,460 --> 00:09:37,890 the only only branch that has 266 00:09:42,590 --> 00:09:40,470 synchronicity is p + + according to the 267 00:09:45,319 --> 00:09:42,600 way I've grouped it now as long as I'm 268 00:09:46,850 --> 00:09:45,329 consistent I'm allowed to do that so the 269 00:09:51,259 --> 00:09:46,860 question is I haven't really done 270 00:09:52,370 --> 00:09:51,269 anything yet but in in in the 271 00:09:54,230 --> 00:09:52,380 mathematics of it you would start with a 272 00:09:56,300 --> 00:09:54,240 state P minus P plus you're in a 273 00:09:58,340 --> 00:09:56,310 superposition state at the initial time 274 00:09:59,810 --> 00:09:58,350 but you can expand that by looking into 275 00:10:02,650 --> 00:09:59,820 the future so I'm gonna look in the 276 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:02,660 future and say well I went from time 0 I 277 00:10:06,079 --> 00:10:04,890 jumped it to time - and I said well 278 00:10:07,940 --> 00:10:06,089 what's going on at time 2 I'm gonna 279 00:10:10,370 --> 00:10:07,950 write my system in terms of all the 280 00:10:12,560 --> 00:10:10,380 possible states at time 2 you might 281 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:12,570 notice that there were 16 earlier of the 282 00:10:15,650 --> 00:10:14,010 final states on the top there were 16 283 00:10:19,370 --> 00:10:15,660 States I've condensed a bunch of them 284 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:19,380 down into these 4 or in and then I've 285 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:20,970 left these foreign condensed you you're 286 00:10:23,780 --> 00:10:22,170 also allowed to do that kind of 287 00:10:27,079 --> 00:10:23,790 combinations just to make it easier to 288 00:10:29,269 --> 00:10:27,089 see but basically what I'm doing is 289 00:10:30,620 --> 00:10:29,279 projecting the state of the system into 290 00:10:33,650 --> 00:10:30,630 the future looking at the possible 291 00:10:34,730 --> 00:10:33,660 outcomes and then this is what I call 292 00:10:37,930 --> 00:10:34,740 the library of all the different 293 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:37,940 possible outcomes and write it down 294 00:10:43,490 --> 00:10:40,290 again here is a picture of those two 295 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:43,500 states and those correspond to these two 296 00:10:47,870 --> 00:10:45,810 states p + + 1 s1 and this one down here 297 00:10:49,010 --> 00:10:47,880 so those are what I call the the 298 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:49,020 synchronous new States or the states 299 00:10:55,850 --> 00:10:53,490 that will give me a positive result here 300 00:10:58,310 --> 00:10:55,860 is one important piece the next thing I 301 00:10:59,870 --> 00:10:58,320 do is I take my action on the system and 302 00:11:02,990 --> 00:10:59,880 by taking the action notice I'm taking 303 00:11:05,150 --> 00:11:03,000 it I'm applying the this is right here 304 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:05,160 from the eye to the Sigma's so the eye 305 00:11:09,650 --> 00:11:08,130 is the operator of my action I'm doing 306 00:11:13,639 --> 00:11:09,660 it all at time two I'm doing it in the 307 00:11:15,560 --> 00:11:13,649 future state and when I apply it to my 308 00:11:17,199 --> 00:11:15,570 eight dimensional vector here it just 309 00:11:18,489 --> 00:11:17,209 multiplies Sigma 1 times the first 310 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:18,499 Sigma two times the second element and 311 00:11:22,419 --> 00:11:19,970 it just creates a linear transformation 312 00:11:25,629 --> 00:11:22,429 so each of this vector is now weighted 313 00:11:27,699 --> 00:11:25,639 according to the Sigma's so now I have a 314 00:11:29,739 --> 00:11:27,709 future set of possible states that are 315 00:11:32,579 --> 00:11:29,749 weighted by these Sigma's and I'm going 316 00:11:34,929 --> 00:11:32,589 to suggest that these Sigma's are 317 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:34,939 correlated to the expectation of the 318 00:11:38,710 --> 00:11:37,490 experimenter so now if that's the case 319 00:11:40,689 --> 00:11:38,720 you've now weighted the possible 320 00:11:42,579 --> 00:11:40,699 outcomes by that can by the expectation 321 00:11:45,220 --> 00:11:42,589 of the experimenter that's a huge leap I 322 00:11:46,329 --> 00:11:45,230 understand that so that's that's what we 323 00:11:50,919 --> 00:11:46,339 might have some questions on and I'll 324 00:11:52,509 --> 00:11:50,929 try to explain more this is the SVD now 325 00:11:54,669 --> 00:11:52,519 let's say instead of having all the 326 00:11:56,710 --> 00:11:54,679 Sigma's be equal let's say sigma v and 327 00:11:58,389 --> 00:11:56,720 sigma 8 are higher than the others this 328 00:12:01,569 --> 00:11:58,399 would correspond to the experimenter 329 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:01,579 having a higher expectation of outcome 5 330 00:12:06,879 --> 00:12:05,689 or how come 8 and these both correspond 331 00:12:08,109 --> 00:12:06,889 to our synchronicity states so this is 332 00:12:09,939 --> 00:12:08,119 like the experimenter saying I believe 333 00:12:10,989 --> 00:12:09,949 I'm going to get a positive result these 334 00:12:13,269 --> 00:12:10,999 are the these are the states that 335 00:12:14,829 --> 00:12:13,279 correspond to that belief and so these 336 00:12:16,359 --> 00:12:14,839 are the Sigma's that would would be 337 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:16,369 activated for them or that they would be 338 00:12:22,119 --> 00:12:18,410 that their belief would be causing sigma 339 00:12:24,100 --> 00:12:22,129 v and sigma v 8 to be larger and the 340 00:12:26,829 --> 00:12:24,110 result of that when you multiply it out 341 00:12:28,150 --> 00:12:26,839 is it of course sigma v the v state over 342 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:28,160 here and the 5th and the 8th state over 343 00:12:33,900 --> 00:12:29,689 here are both larger than the other 344 00:12:39,100 --> 00:12:37,109 again you have the synchronicity States 345 00:12:41,650 --> 00:12:39,110 just to remind you these are the two 346 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:41,660 states where we're aiming for and then 347 00:12:45,910 --> 00:12:43,850 in here that this is the initial time 348 00:12:48,789 --> 00:12:45,920 this is the final time when we're doing 349 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:48,799 all these calculations but what I'm 350 00:12:51,999 --> 00:12:49,850 really curious about is what's gonna 351 00:12:56,199 --> 00:12:52,009 happen at the next time step where am I 352 00:12:58,329 --> 00:12:56,209 going to end up at time 1 because at 353 00:12:59,889 --> 00:12:58,339 time 0 I'm here and at time 2 I'm 354 00:13:01,929 --> 00:12:59,899 interested in becoming here or I think 355 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:01,939 I'm gonna be here well where does the 356 00:13:08,019 --> 00:13:05,569 math lead me to end up here what you do 357 00:13:10,869 --> 00:13:08,029 is you you collapse this vector at time 358 00:13:13,569 --> 00:13:10,879 T 2 down to a vector it I mean yeah down 359 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:13,579 to a vector at time T 1 which is P - P - 360 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:16,490 plus P plus minus P plus plus you see 361 00:13:20,079 --> 00:13:18,410 these four states those are the same as 362 00:13:22,210 --> 00:13:20,089 these four states here so I'm basically 363 00:13:24,489 --> 00:13:22,220 writing my my later state in terms of an 364 00:13:26,829 --> 00:13:24,499 earlier earlier state and the result of 365 00:13:29,919 --> 00:13:26,839 that is that P plus plus is is the only 366 00:13:30,670 --> 00:13:29,929 one that gets larger because this fifth 367 00:13:33,370 --> 00:13:30,680 state in this eights 368 00:13:36,460 --> 00:13:33,380 largerr so my meant the result of my 369 00:13:38,829 --> 00:13:36,470 action if I believe that I will get 370 00:13:40,150 --> 00:13:38,839 positive results is to wait state 5 and 371 00:13:42,519 --> 00:13:40,160 state 8 have more heavily than the 372 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:42,529 others and therefore to wait the P plus 373 00:13:48,750 --> 00:13:43,970 plus state more heavily than these other 374 00:13:50,860 --> 00:13:48,760 three at time two and that's this state 375 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:50,870 so what I'm trying to describe is a 376 00:13:56,110 --> 00:13:52,970 process not a physical process where we 377 00:13:58,660 --> 00:13:56,120 are inhibiting the actual physical 378 00:14:06,130 --> 00:13:58,670 nature of sigh I'm saying that there is 379 00:14:07,329 --> 00:14:06,140 a a set of histories or of of timelines 380 00:14:09,070 --> 00:14:07,339 that were more likely to end up in 381 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:09,080 because we are projecting into the 382 00:14:13,660 --> 00:14:10,970 future and acting as if these states are 383 00:14:16,300 --> 00:14:13,670 going to be real and that leads us to 384 00:14:20,019 --> 00:14:16,310 have a more likely chance to end up in 385 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:20,029 the state that leads there now this 386 00:14:22,570 --> 00:14:21,410 state is the only one connected to the 387 00:14:23,829 --> 00:14:22,580 synchronicity States and that's why it 388 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:23,839 ends up being more likely than the other 389 00:14:29,710 --> 00:14:26,810 three states so after this this one 390 00:14:32,230 --> 00:14:29,720 action I've gone from a superposition of 391 00:14:36,519 --> 00:14:32,240 these two states into a more likely hood 392 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:36,529 of being in this state so the main idea 393 00:14:40,329 --> 00:14:38,330 to is a singular value effect I just 394 00:14:41,740 --> 00:14:40,339 showed that which is that the Sigma are 395 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:41,750 proposed to be the experimenters level 396 00:14:45,130 --> 00:14:43,010 of confidence or belief that an outcome 397 00:14:47,650 --> 00:14:45,140 is possible so I believe I will obtain 398 00:14:50,019 --> 00:14:47,660 positive results that would create a 399 00:14:53,590 --> 00:14:50,029 higher Sigma for those particular those 400 00:14:55,990 --> 00:14:53,600 particular states so if you want to just 401 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:56,000 take a quick example I'm not very happy 402 00:14:59,980 --> 00:14:58,130 with the state of this concept in the 403 00:15:02,410 --> 00:14:59,990 mathematics of it it's it's coming along 404 00:15:04,390 --> 00:15:02,420 but I'm not confident yet but just to 405 00:15:07,290 --> 00:15:04,400 show you how these what I've shown you 406 00:15:10,150 --> 00:15:07,300 works out with numbers if you have a 407 00:15:11,710 --> 00:15:10,160 sigma 5 into Sigma 8 slightly higher 408 00:15:13,210 --> 00:15:11,720 than 1 and all the rest of the Sigma's 409 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:13,220 are slightly lower than 1 to compensate 410 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:14,690 this is saying that you're going to 411 00:15:17,980 --> 00:15:16,010 weight the fifth state in the eighth 412 00:15:20,650 --> 00:15:17,990 state more heavily or the synchronicity 413 00:15:23,530 --> 00:15:20,660 States more heavily what that leads to 414 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:23,540 is you have these four states over here 415 00:15:28,060 --> 00:15:25,730 P minus minus P minus plus P plus minus 416 00:15:30,370 --> 00:15:28,070 and P plus plus in the unbiased state 417 00:15:32,110 --> 00:15:30,380 they have a 25% chance of happening in 418 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:32,120 other words there's a 25% of each of the 419 00:15:39,550 --> 00:15:36,170 states to happen in the bias States with 420 00:15:41,980 --> 00:15:39,560 these values for Sigma 5 and Sigma 8 you 421 00:15:43,329 --> 00:15:41,990 get a slightly less probability for the 422 00:15:44,530 --> 00:15:43,339 first three states and a slightly more 423 00:15:46,090 --> 00:15:44,540 probability for the last 424 00:15:48,820 --> 00:15:46,100 you're slightly more likely in that 425 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:48,830 moment to end up in a time line that 426 00:15:54,490 --> 00:15:52,970 will have the positive effect it doesn't 427 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:54,500 mean that you definitely will because 428 00:15:59,260 --> 00:15:56,210 you could still end up in this history 429 00:16:00,850 --> 00:15:59,270 or this history but you actually have a 430 00:16:03,220 --> 00:16:00,860 higher percentage chance because two out 431 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:03,230 of the four states now have a likelihood 432 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:05,090 of getting a synchronicity or a positive 433 00:16:09,900 --> 00:16:07,490 result whereas before it was only two 434 00:16:14,140 --> 00:16:09,910 out of 16 states which is a much less 435 00:16:17,290 --> 00:16:14,150 percentage obviously and that's the main 436 00:16:19,810 --> 00:16:17,300 idea I'd like to convey the idea of by 437 00:16:21,220 --> 00:16:19,820 choosing a particular history by 438 00:16:22,870 --> 00:16:21,230 imagining a possible future we're 439 00:16:25,060 --> 00:16:22,880 choosing a particular history and end up 440 00:16:26,230 --> 00:16:25,070 more likely in a situation to have that 441 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:26,240 happen it doesn't mean it definitely 442 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:27,770 will happen but it's more likely at that 443 00:16:35,220 --> 00:16:29,330 point because we've self selected into a 444 00:16:39,850 --> 00:16:38,140 so conclusion if we act as if a future 445 00:16:41,500 --> 00:16:39,860 outcome is true we are more likely to 446 00:16:43,180 --> 00:16:41,510 find ourselves in state P plus plus 447 00:16:45,430 --> 00:16:43,190 after a single time step which has 448 00:16:48,700 --> 00:16:45,440 greater likelihood of that state being 449 00:16:51,610 --> 00:16:48,710 true I don't know if that makes sense 450 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:51,620 the way I put it there but mathematical 451 00:16:55,270 --> 00:16:54,050 model needs to work I need to work more 452 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:55,280 on it I wasn't finished by the time I 453 00:16:58,660 --> 00:16:56,690 came here I thought I was but it ended 454 00:17:00,760 --> 00:16:58,670 up not being satisfactory so more to 455 00:17:06,189 --> 00:17:00,770 come on that I'm definitely open to 456 00:17:07,990 --> 00:17:06,199 ideas and thoughts summary review every 457 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:08,000 action by the experimenter first it 458 00:17:11,170 --> 00:17:09,410 groups future outcomes according to the 459 00:17:13,930 --> 00:17:11,180 question posed the history selection 460 00:17:15,810 --> 00:17:13,940 effect by asking the question you're 461 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:15,820 determining the possible outcomes and 462 00:17:20,350 --> 00:17:18,890 grouping them accordingly doesn't mean 463 00:17:21,610 --> 00:17:20,360 that's the actual outcomes that are all 464 00:17:23,530 --> 00:17:21,620 possible but you're determining it by 465 00:17:25,150 --> 00:17:23,540 the question you asked second you bias 466 00:17:27,370 --> 00:17:25,160 the future states that this person 467 00:17:28,900 --> 00:17:27,380 affects that she expects that's the 468 00:17:30,220 --> 00:17:28,910 singular value effect by applying the 469 00:17:33,340 --> 00:17:30,230 thing of the values you bias the states 470 00:17:34,780 --> 00:17:33,350 and then you write the final state not 471 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:34,790 in the present but in the next time step 472 00:17:37,270 --> 00:17:35,930 so that you can see what's the 473 00:17:39,070 --> 00:17:37,280 likelihood of getting to the next step 474 00:17:40,420 --> 00:17:39,080 and where will you be most likely when 475 00:17:43,420 --> 00:17:40,430 you get there you'll be closer to those 476 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:43,430 synchronicities and hopefully the 477 00:17:45,820 --> 00:17:44,450 synchronicities are things that you want 478 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:45,830 they could also be things you don't want 479 00:17:49,420 --> 00:17:46,970 because what I'm what I'm basically 480 00:17:50,590 --> 00:17:49,430 saying is this has to do with belief now 481 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:50,600 belief is something that we don't really 482 00:17:53,620 --> 00:17:52,610 understand a whole lot about and 483 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:53,630 obviously there needs to be more work 484 00:17:58,510 --> 00:17:57,170 done on that but I believe it's I think 485 00:18:01,240 --> 00:17:58,520 it's beliefs not thoughts 486 00:18:03,940 --> 00:18:01,250 influence the outcome there's you know 487 00:18:04,990 --> 00:18:03,950 whole New Age movement of people who who 488 00:18:07,030 --> 00:18:05,000 haven't thought enough about it and 489 00:18:10,450 --> 00:18:07,040 maybe are thinking that an individual 490 00:18:11,590 --> 00:18:10,460 thought can change the potential for 491 00:18:13,360 --> 00:18:11,600 synchronicity or the potential for 492 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:13,370 outcomes in the future I would say that 493 00:18:16,570 --> 00:18:15,050 individual thoughts can affect your 494 00:18:18,100 --> 00:18:16,580 beliefs if you keep applying them again 495 00:18:18,820 --> 00:18:18,110 and again and again but your beliefs are 496 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:18,830 like a big ship 497 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:20,570 that's hard to steer and so it's your 498 00:18:23,830 --> 00:18:21,890 beliefs that are actually determining 499 00:18:27,850 --> 00:18:23,840 the types of synchronicities or the 500 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:27,860 types of outcomes you'll get and I'll 501 00:18:31,660 --> 00:18:29,930 give an example unintentional belief 502 00:18:34,930 --> 00:18:31,670 from gene ratings experiment I forget 503 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:34,940 what was called but he did this 504 00:18:41,380 --> 00:18:37,730 experiment where the the meditator is 505 00:18:43,810 --> 00:18:41,390 trying to influence the interference 506 00:18:45,250 --> 00:18:43,820 device in the other room and about 507 00:18:47,260 --> 00:18:45,260 halfway through the experiment he 508 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:47,270 analyzed the data just on a whim and 509 00:18:51,610 --> 00:18:49,610 from what I remember and found it to be 510 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:51,620 incredibly positive he was getting 511 00:18:56,770 --> 00:18:54,410 really correlated results and actually 512 00:18:58,900 --> 00:18:56,780 from that point on his results went down 513 00:19:01,390 --> 00:18:58,910 and he didn't explain it in any 514 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:01,400 particular way but he said it made me 515 00:19:05,380 --> 00:19:03,770 wonder if my knowing that the system 516 00:19:10,300 --> 00:19:05,390 that it was going well and my disbelief 517 00:19:12,430 --> 00:19:10,310 at that fact ruined the future of the 518 00:19:13,780 --> 00:19:12,440 experiment because I when I saw it when 519 00:19:15,310 --> 00:19:13,790 he saw the results he he was in 520 00:19:16,270 --> 00:19:15,320 disbelief he was a pretty good skeptic 521 00:19:17,830 --> 00:19:16,280 and he was like I can't believe this is 522 00:19:20,650 --> 00:19:17,840 working you know I got to keep doing it 523 00:19:22,360 --> 00:19:20,660 but this just it's amazing and so that's 524 00:19:24,430 --> 00:19:22,370 an example of where even though the 525 00:19:25,390 --> 00:19:24,440 person is going through the rest of the 526 00:19:27,430 --> 00:19:25,400 experiment thinking that they're going 527 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:27,440 to you know do it objectively their 528 00:19:31,930 --> 00:19:29,450 unintentional belief may have been you 529 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:31,940 know this really isn't possible and they 530 00:19:35,950 --> 00:19:33,770 actually ended up biasing the system as 531 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:35,960 a result so I would say that thoughts 532 00:19:39,310 --> 00:19:37,610 and actions are important only as much 533 00:19:41,140 --> 00:19:39,320 as they reflect the inner beliefs of the 534 00:19:46,900 --> 00:19:41,150 person doing the action or the 535 00:19:48,010 --> 00:19:46,910 experiment and obviously Brenda Donna's 536 00:19:49,990 --> 00:19:48,020 experienced the inner for the 537 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:50,000 experimenter effect and I've talked with 538 00:19:52,750 --> 00:19:50,930 her a little bit about that today but 539 00:19:56,350 --> 00:19:52,760 you could probably ask her what her 540 00:19:57,550 --> 00:19:56,360 experiences have been so if I didn't 541 00:19:59,290 --> 00:19:57,560 explain it earlier the experiment of 542 00:20:01,420 --> 00:19:59,300 fact is when the experimenters biases or 543 00:20:02,380 --> 00:20:01,430 preferences actually seems to influence 544 00:20:04,660 --> 00:20:02,390 the outcome of the experiment that 545 00:20:07,900 --> 00:20:04,670 they're doing so why is this important 546 00:20:09,460 --> 00:20:07,910 to society and the paradigm change my 547 00:20:10,870 --> 00:20:09,470 actions what are what are society's 548 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:10,880 current beliefs well here's a couple of 549 00:20:15,230 --> 00:20:11,610 them that I like to point 550 00:20:16,549 --> 00:20:15,240 now my actions are irrelevant is that 551 00:20:19,370 --> 00:20:16,559 what we think political change is 552 00:20:21,890 --> 00:20:19,380 hopeless alternatives to the commuter 553 00:20:23,419 --> 00:20:21,900 lifestyle are not realistic or changing 554 00:20:25,820 --> 00:20:23,429 to sustainable energy resources is 555 00:20:28,100 --> 00:20:25,830 expensive all of those are things that 556 00:20:30,890 --> 00:20:28,110 could be verified if you want to or 557 00:20:32,660 --> 00:20:30,900 could be unverified if you have 558 00:20:33,740 --> 00:20:32,670 different data it's based on the mind 559 00:20:36,140 --> 00:20:33,750 frame over the person because they're 560 00:20:38,450 --> 00:20:36,150 all speaking about the future and about 561 00:20:39,530 --> 00:20:38,460 things we have no control over what I'm 562 00:20:41,570 --> 00:20:39,540 trying to point out is if we don't 563 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:41,580 change those beliefs we may cause them 564 00:20:47,360 --> 00:20:44,450 to be true whatever the beliefs are 565 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:47,370 they're gonna be influenced by the by 566 00:20:51,890 --> 00:20:49,770 these Sigma are our brains affecting 567 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:51,900 these singular values and affecting the 568 00:20:55,370 --> 00:20:53,610 possible futures that we end up in and 569 00:20:56,870 --> 00:20:55,380 we end up in a possible future where 570 00:20:58,159 --> 00:20:56,880 things that we don't like are coming 571 00:21:01,070 --> 00:20:58,169 true rather than things we don't would 572 00:21:02,870 --> 00:21:01,080 that we do like so it may be of utmost 573 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:02,880 urgency to imagine the future we wish to 574 00:21:06,799 --> 00:21:04,410 have not the one we were afraid to 575 00:21:14,270 --> 00:21:06,809 happen because we may believe in each of 576 00:21:16,370 --> 00:21:14,280 those just as equally thank you thank 577 00:21:18,950 --> 00:21:16,380 you very much can we have questions let 578 00:21:21,500 --> 00:21:18,960 me ask the first question ask I would 579 00:21:24,650 --> 00:21:21,510 what do you think would be an 580 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:24,660 explanation for the physical mechanism 581 00:21:31,700 --> 00:21:29,490 yes that would cause beliefs to or even 582 00:21:35,030 --> 00:21:31,710 beliefs I assume were the same as asking 583 00:21:36,110 --> 00:21:35,040 the questions to influence the branching 584 00:21:38,390 --> 00:21:36,120 process because that's what you're 585 00:21:39,409 --> 00:21:38,400 really talking about mm-hmm so what 586 00:21:40,810 --> 00:21:39,419 would the physical mechanism be I 587 00:21:43,150 --> 00:21:40,820 haven't talked about it at all right 588 00:21:49,970 --> 00:21:43,160 that's a great question and I don't know 589 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:49,980 my interest is in understanding the 590 00:21:57,020 --> 00:21:52,770 nature of the space in which this 591 00:21:59,270 --> 00:21:57,030 branching is happening it's branching 592 00:22:03,200 --> 00:21:59,280 what spaces is in to me this is an 593 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:03,210 information space and I I would imagine 594 00:22:08,120 --> 00:22:05,250 that a parallels physical space but 595 00:22:10,250 --> 00:22:08,130 obviously is described differently and 596 00:22:11,780 --> 00:22:10,260 in this information space all the future 597 00:22:13,940 --> 00:22:11,790 outcomes are pot that are possible are 598 00:22:16,730 --> 00:22:13,950 already existing in a branch tree like 599 00:22:18,289 --> 00:22:16,740 this so I the work I'm continuing to do 600 00:22:20,659 --> 00:22:18,299 has to do with Fourier transformation 601 00:22:22,970 --> 00:22:20,669 and and how that relates to all the 602 00:22:24,630 --> 00:22:22,980 different possible future outcomes which 603 00:22:27,230 --> 00:22:24,640 are nearly infinite 604 00:22:30,570 --> 00:22:27,240 hower self-selecting two specific 605 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:30,580 outcomes by this process and physical 606 00:22:34,230 --> 00:22:32,770 mechanism I wonder if it's a physical 607 00:22:35,730 --> 00:22:34,240 mechanism or if somehow it can be 608 00:22:38,130 --> 00:22:35,740 explained by this process of selecting 609 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:38,140 among those different states and over 610 00:22:41,670 --> 00:22:40,810 time selecting different outcomes but 611 00:22:46,590 --> 00:22:41,680 it's a good question I don't know the 612 00:22:48,420 --> 00:22:46,600 answer Louis guy Emery Mort yeah I'd 613 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:48,430 like to continue to engage in some 614 00:22:53,570 --> 00:22:51,610 youthful speculation here so continuing 615 00:22:55,890 --> 00:22:53,580 on the question that you were just asked 616 00:22:57,930 --> 00:22:55,900 I'm wondering if you can you've 617 00:22:59,850 --> 00:22:57,940 considered that perhaps beliefs are 618 00:23:04,830 --> 00:22:59,860 actually could be described as like a 619 00:23:08,370 --> 00:23:04,840 Rupert Sheldrake morphic field and as 620 00:23:12,390 --> 00:23:08,380 you put your beliefs out there you and 621 00:23:17,070 --> 00:23:12,400 you actually they somehow act within you 622 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:17,080 perhaps you dig a canal like Rio dwith 623 00:23:22,130 --> 00:23:19,530 that belief that allows the the ball 624 00:23:26,850 --> 00:23:22,140 synchronistically to more often than not 625 00:23:29,100 --> 00:23:26,860 roll to that five or eight destination 626 00:23:31,890 --> 00:23:29,110 right well I think that this this 627 00:23:33,060 --> 00:23:31,900 process seems to I mean it you know if 628 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:33,070 you want to accept what I've said so far 629 00:23:36,330 --> 00:23:34,450 which is a big leap of faith to begin 630 00:23:38,300 --> 00:23:36,340 with it seems like it would be 631 00:23:40,380 --> 00:23:38,310 applicable to groups of people that 632 00:23:43,940 --> 00:23:40,390 society's beliefs would also have this 633 00:23:46,770 --> 00:23:43,950 kind of impact scalable in that way so 634 00:23:48,270 --> 00:23:46,780 that would be a way in which you might 635 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:48,280 model as a channel in the morphic field 636 00:23:54,210 --> 00:23:51,730 and that that seems totally plausible it 637 00:23:55,890 --> 00:23:54,220 may be you could also describe it as if 638 00:23:59,160 --> 00:23:55,900 you have you know hundred million people 639 00:24:01,620 --> 00:23:59,170 all heading down one path which is you 640 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:01,630 know climate change doesn't exist and we 641 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:03,250 can use as many fossil fuels as we want 642 00:24:08,430 --> 00:24:06,010 it takes more than a few of us to change 643 00:24:10,380 --> 00:24:08,440 the likelihood that we're gonna get onto 644 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:10,390 this path with these negative 645 00:24:13,770 --> 00:24:11,890 synchronicities of you know massive 646 00:24:14,970 --> 00:24:13,780 tsunamis or whatever you know this is 647 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:14,980 the path that these hundred million 648 00:24:19,770 --> 00:24:18,610 people are all pushing us to I would 649 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:19,780 think that there's some kind of linear 650 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:21,610 process you know linear addition it 651 00:24:25,890 --> 00:24:23,530 takes an equal number of people or you 652 00:24:28,740 --> 00:24:25,900 know strong people to to push the boat 653 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:28,750 the other way but I also would say and I 654 00:24:33,030 --> 00:24:31,450 don't want to take too long but this has 655 00:24:35,100 --> 00:24:33,040 only described from a single person's 656 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:35,110 point of view at a time so I don't know 657 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:36,970 what to make of the the question of 658 00:24:42,420 --> 00:24:38,530 whether societies fate is really 659 00:24:44,820 --> 00:24:42,430 same as my feet just because there's 660 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:44,830 some objective society out there making 661 00:24:48,660 --> 00:24:47,170 decisions and creating that morphic 662 00:24:51,750 --> 00:24:48,670 field I don't know whether whether the 663 00:24:55,550 --> 00:24:51,760 morphic field is objective or not okay I 664 00:25:01,620 --> 00:24:59,550 so if you get to the point where you can 665 00:25:06,270 --> 00:25:01,630 actually discuss what the hidden 666 00:25:09,780 --> 00:25:06,280 variable is that controls the quantum 667 00:25:13,590 --> 00:25:09,790 mechanical process that then will really 668 00:25:15,540 --> 00:25:13,600 have come somewhere I think there's a 669 00:25:18,810 --> 00:25:15,550 twist that you're going to have to make 670 00:25:21,450 --> 00:25:18,820 in order to make this work just as even 671 00:25:25,020 --> 00:25:21,460 as a weight matrix and that is based on 672 00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:25,030 Dean Raiden's Markov chain experiment 673 00:25:30,510 --> 00:25:27,370 that he published in 2006 in the Journal 674 00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:30,520 of scientific exploration so in that 675 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:33,370 experiment he actually created a 676 00:25:39,270 --> 00:25:36,490 physical manifestation of this set of 677 00:25:42,090 --> 00:25:39,280 states with random number generators and 678 00:25:45,510 --> 00:25:42,100 showed that in fact you cannot make a 679 00:25:47,970 --> 00:25:45,520 weight matrix at the beginning which can 680 00:25:51,030 --> 00:25:47,980 be biased to give you the output that 681 00:25:53,490 --> 00:25:51,040 you're intending instead you've got to 682 00:25:57,410 --> 00:25:53,500 do it retro causally so it's it's a 683 00:26:00,210 --> 00:25:57,420 retro causal pull rather than a forward 684 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:00,220 causation and so interesting you you'll 685 00:26:04,410 --> 00:26:02,410 need to invert this right temporarily 686 00:26:05,970 --> 00:26:04,420 right thank you and I would love to read 687 00:26:10,730 --> 00:26:05,980 that if you remember and want to send 688 00:26:16,650 --> 00:26:14,180 Juana Costa I enjoyed your presentation 689 00:26:20,340 --> 00:26:16,660 I'm going to share very quick this 690 00:26:22,410 --> 00:26:20,350 little piece I work at a NIH Laboratory 691 00:26:28,710 --> 00:26:22,420 of biophysics for a number of years as a 692 00:26:30,330 --> 00:26:28,720 postdoc long ago and we were doing what 693 00:26:31,770 --> 00:26:30,340 we called voltage clamp experiments 694 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:31,780 putting two micro electrodes in a cell 695 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:34,810 and studying currents ionic currents 696 00:26:41,190 --> 00:26:37,090 anyway the only one who could produce 697 00:26:43,380 --> 00:26:41,200 the desired effect was one person and he 698 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:43,390 was the boss who was running the lab or 699 00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:44,530 chief 700 00:26:49,919 --> 00:26:47,049 and nobody else could reproduce his 701 00:26:53,610 --> 00:26:49,929 results and I sat with him when he was 702 00:26:59,010 --> 00:26:53,620 doing the experiments and I swear he was 703 00:27:02,690 --> 00:26:59,020 using his intention to modify it was so 704 00:27:04,289 --> 00:27:02,700 consistent is there a question in there 705 00:27:10,110 --> 00:27:04,299 that's great 706 00:27:11,630 --> 00:27:10,120 well so yeah and and i would say 707 00:27:14,399 --> 00:27:11,640 intentions ranks up there with thoughts 708 00:27:15,750 --> 00:27:14,409 they are supported by beliefs and if the 709 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:15,760 person's beliefs about the situation is 710 00:27:21,090 --> 00:27:17,890 strong enough and their intentions would 711 00:27:23,940 --> 00:27:21,100 might be more effective actually I do 712 00:27:26,310 --> 00:27:23,950 have a question and statement so the 713 00:27:29,220 --> 00:27:26,320 statement is in I was involved in some 714 00:27:32,039 --> 00:27:29,230 ganzfeld experiments a while back and I 715 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:32,049 was a control and I didn't believe that 716 00:27:40,140 --> 00:27:36,250 I could perform as well as the psychics 717 00:27:45,299 --> 00:27:40,150 in the in the study who were chosen for 718 00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:45,309 their abilities and yet I performed 719 00:27:51,390 --> 00:27:47,049 several of those people who believed 720 00:27:53,430 --> 00:27:51,400 that they could perform better so I can 721 00:27:55,919 --> 00:27:53,440 call it an anomaly but how do would you 722 00:27:58,289 --> 00:27:55,929 explain that right well I think that's a 723 00:28:00,810 --> 00:27:58,299 great question and I don't know I think 724 00:28:05,130 --> 00:28:00,820 that again we don't know what belief is 725 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:05,140 and it is it is a little challenging 726 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:06,970 sometimes to know whether what we really 727 00:28:10,770 --> 00:28:08,770 believe we might think that we believe 728 00:28:12,330 --> 00:28:10,780 we're not good at something when truly 729 00:28:14,130 --> 00:28:12,340 you know a child has a lot of confidence 730 00:28:15,390 --> 00:28:14,140 that they're good at some things just 731 00:28:17,669 --> 00:28:15,400 because they don't have any knowledge 732 00:28:19,140 --> 00:28:17,679 that they do they don't so I think 733 00:28:20,820 --> 00:28:19,150 beliefs need more understanding and 734 00:28:22,470 --> 00:28:20,830 beliefs can be treacherous 735 00:28:25,380 --> 00:28:22,480 thinking we know what we believe what we 736 00:28:26,490 --> 00:28:25,390 don't believe Nielsen thank you very